THE NEW TRANSSEXUALS

Bailey Jay

Porn Star

Photo: Matthew Terhune

George Petros: BAILEY, YOU’RE FROM RICHMOND, VIRGINIA — WHAT WAS IT LIKE GROWING UP THERE?

Bailey Jay: Actually, not as bad as people think. I mean, Virginia is technically the South. I was able to transition normally and have everyone treat me really well. I had a pretty easy life, I think — which sucks because I want to write a book about my life and nothing interesting happened.

WELL, WE’LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

Bailey Jay: I had very strange parents. That was pretty weird. In Richmond my whole family were outcasts — and they were all welcoming about me being Transgendered.

THEY WERE OUTCASTS, YOU SAY —

Bailey Jay: Oh yeah. My father and mother were both very, very, very strange. My father was a Heroin addict forever, and my mother was addicted to Amphetamines, like Speed and all that sort of stuff. So, my father left when I was young and my mom, ever since I was probably about six or so, basically has the brain of a child. So I was basically raised by a ten-year-old. When I said that I was Transgendered, it wasn’t like I was asking for permission — it was more like I was telling her. She was more like my kid. We were from Richmond, Virginia but because of the kind of family I grew up in, I don’t think I got the normal Virginia experience.

I SEE. DID YOU GET HIGH WITH THEM?

Bailey Jay: No, never — obviously, when I was a teenager I was high around my mom on different stuff. I never did drugs with her. That would have been too weird. When I was a teenager I did drugs and I’d come home and I would obviously be under the influence — she had no idea, though. She was very clueless about stuff. For someone who got into the lifestyle, she was so naïve — like a child would be. Even if I wasn’t intoxicated or high around her or whatever — she would have no idea.

WHAT ABOUT YOUR PALS IN SCHOOL? WHAT WAS LIFE LIKE SOCIALLY FOR YOU?

Bailey Jay: I found a group of kids in my school — they had like a subculture. They introduced me to everything cool, like music and John Waters films and, you know, just like weird stuff. They basically helped sculpt my personality. I had a group of probably seven really, really good friends. When they met me I was a little boy, and most of them are boys. They would always make jokes about how pretty I was. It was kind of like a joke in our circle that I was a really pretty boy. My voice was very, very high back then. So, when I finally did transition, we were all — it was almost like my family. They were all already so weird and they were such a subculture of interesting weird things — when I became Transgendered, they didn’t care. It was like a big joke. They said that I was like their little brother that grew up to be their hot little sister.

WHO WERE YOU DATING IN THOSE DAYS?

Bailey Jay: I just stopped trying to date girls. I think on a physical level I’m attracted to girls — but I think girls are fucking insane. So I don’t date them. They’re totally crazy. That was around the time that I dated my first boy. He was my long-term boyfriend, and we ended up dating for about four years — and then we broke up.

SO WAS IT BOYS AFTER THAT?

Bailey Jay: Oh yeah, ever since then, yeah. Only one girl since then — and she was crazy as all hell.

SO, NOW THAT YOU’RE A GIRL, ARE YOU CRAZY TOO?

Bailey Jay: No. You see, it’s funny — as much as I identify as a woman, I feel like I identify as Bailey, as stupid as that sounds. I don’t feel — and obviously most Transsexuals would kill me for saying this — I don’t feel like a woman. I felt like I needed to become whatever gender I became, but I don’t — by definition and by knowing women — I don’t act like the women I’ve met. I guess I should say there are plenty of strong women. I don’t shy away from noticing my more masculine tendencies, as feminine as I look in appearance. My problem-solving skills are definitely more masculine.

WHEN YOU GOT OUT OF SCHOOL, WHAT WERE YOU DOING?

Bailey Jay: I was in ninth grade when I ended up dropping out of school. All my friends were seniors and they graduated, and I didn’t want to go to tenth grade. All my friends were gone, you know? So I left school and told my mom I was leaving home. I was still going to be in Virginia, but I was just not going to be living with her, and I was going to go live with my friends or my boyfriend or whoever at the time. It’s so weird. I want to say I didn’t do anything — but at the same time, those were my most formative years. That’s when I learned about all the great music that was out there. I discovered The Pixies, and I started actually developing into a human being after I left school. I didn’t have a job. I hung out at my friends’ houses and I lived with them. I did drugs and learned about music and all that kind of stuff. I kinda did nothing and everything all at the same time. Like, my favorite bands to this day are bands I discovered in that few-year period before I was contacted about doing porn.

TELL US SOME OF THOSE BANDS —

Bailey Jay: I learned about The Pixies. I learned about The Smiths. I like the weird bands, like The Kinks. For some reason I thought that they were cool. I’m really, really obsessed with Bjork. She’s so cool. Who else? There were so many cool bands, like Trip Hop and funky stuff. I got to see Parliament-Funkadelic in concert around that time. It was pretty cool.

THAT MUST HAVE BEEN QUITE A REVELATION.

Bailey Jay: It was amazing. George Clinton gave me a hug. Pretty weird. They were all cracked out of their heads.

WHAT KIND OF DRUGS DID YOU LIKE?

Bailey Jay: Okay. So, my thing — that I quickly discovered I had to stop — was Cocaine. I just tried it. I mean, everybody does. I tried anything I could get my hands on in the suburbs of Richmond, Virginia. There was more than you’d think. Everything would go around. LSD was always around, and Coke and Mushrooms — which I would never do again. Oh my god, Mushrooms were awful. Mostly I was just a massive pothead, but whatever was around, obviously me and my group of friends would all try. The depressing part is that this group of friends that I constantly reference like a network or a family — they’re all still doing the same thing, you know? I went home recently to see my family and I couldn’t even see them because it was just so depressing. They’re all literally in the same living room doing the same thing four years later — only older.

DID YOU DO LSD?

Bailey Jay: Oh yeah. I used to drop a lot of Acid. A lot of that had to do with beginning my transition, and people were finding me attractive for the first time ever. Not just like, “Oh, you’re kinda cute, you look like a girl,” but like really drooling over me. I’d never experienced anything like that. When you’re in these situations where life’s offering all this new stuff to you — it’s just like, “Hey, you wanna try Acid?” It’s like, “Of course — I’m having such a great time, why wouldn’t I?” So I did. Anything anyone gave me at the time, I would do.

WHEN YOU DID ACID, WERE THERE ANY REVELATIONS ABOUT YOUR IDENTITY, OR DID YOU GRAPPLE WITH ISSUES OF WHO YOU WERE, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?

Bailey Jay: Well, lucky for me at that time in my life — I don’t know if it was because I was so young or I was just so horny or whatever it was — I couldn’t get introspective. Thank god for that, because I probably would have freaked out. It’s so strange. My Transgenderism and my identity — my gender stuff — I’ve never gotten incredibly introspective about it. Ever. It’s not really in my nature. It’s weird, but I feel like it’s so simple and so I don’t even delve into it. I’ve never really looked into what gender I am, or really worried about things. I was really young. I was seventeen, eighteen — any time I was high, it was just an excuse to do it with somebody. My motives were very simple. Thank god, because I can’t imagine — if I really concentrated on gender and identity on Acid, I probably would have jumped off a building.

DO YOU STILL GET HIGH?

Bailey Jay: Not at all. Not even a little bit. I never made a grand pronouncement that I’m never going to do drugs again or anything like that — I just never did. I just don’t have time and — I don’t know. It’s weird: After I stopped trying to get laid and stopped being emotive in order to get me out of my shell all the time — I like my shell, so I don’t really need to be forced out of it with drugs anymore. I mean, I do drink; I’m a drinker.

WHAT DO YOU LIKE TO DRINK?

Bailey Jay: Vodka. Vodka tonic — or if I’m sick I drink Jager. If I have a cold or something, I drink Jager.

I SEE. WHEN DID YOUR TRANSITION BEGIN? DID IT BEGIN WITH TAKING HORMONES?

Bailey Jay: It actually didn’t. I think for a lot of people it does — but with me, hormones didn’t change me. I started taking hormones about three or four years ago, after living my life as a female. I’m five-foot-five — I’m naturally hairless. I literally shave my legs less than my sister. It’s genetic, so I never needed them. The only reason I took hormones these last couple of years is fear that maybe the gravy train would run out. I’m naturally so feminine — but who knows? Maybe I just have delayed puberty or something. So, I started hormones recently, to ensure that I wouldn’t look like a full-blown man as I get older.

I SEE.

Bailey Jay: But the only thing hormones did for me physically is that my nipples got a little bit more pronounced and my thighs got fat. You know, I got cellulite. That was the only difference. I looked cuter before hormones.

WHAT ABOUT IN THE SEXUAL PERFORMANCE DEPARTMENT? HOW HAVE THE HORMONES IMPACTED THAT?

Bailey Jay: I’m still hornier than ever. It never made my sex drive go down. It never made it harder to get erections or anything, like it does for so many. Even if that did happen, it wouldn’t be bad. I’m like a walking boner, constantly. So, the hormones maybe cut it down ten percent — but nothing noticeable. The only thing that was noticeable is, I don’t ejaculate as much. I used to come like a lot — but now I don’t really ejaculate that much. Like, a lot of semen would come out — and now not nearly as much.

HOW ABOUT THE PLEASURE THAT’S ATTACHED TO THE ORGASM? HAS THAT BEEN ALTERED OR CHANGED AT ALL?

Bailey Jay: Yeah. I notice when I get my hormones re-upped that my orgasms are — I want to say “more elusive,” if that makes sense. They’re not as straight-to-the-point, like a male orgasm is. It’s more — I wish I could find the proper way to put this — it’s more elusive. It’s almost an orgasm the first time, then I have to catch it. A male orgasm is such an easy animal. It just happens. Sometimes it’s like a little bit more in my toes or in my back — not just in my dick and my ass, like a male orgasm.

Photo: Matthew Terhune

AND HOW ABOUT SEXUAL ENCOUNTERS — HOW HAVE THEY CHANGED, IF AT ALL?

Bailey Jay: They never did. Not as a result of the hormones. My sexual encounters changed because I grew up. When you first transition and everyone thinks you’re the hottest thing on Earth, you look like a hot girl and you have the libido of a man. You’re gonna suck a lot of dick. Definitely as I got older, I mellowed out. And porn — that makes sex a lot less interesting. It’s work. You go to these award shows and you hear everybody talk about sex. It’s about as sexual as a bachelorette party. Sex becomes such a novelty that eventually, I don’t know — it stops really doing it for ya.

TELL US ABOUT YOUR INTRODUCTION INTO THE WORLD OF PORN, PLEASE.

Bailey Jay: I was sent an e-mail, or it was on MySpace or something — a guy said he’d pay me five-hundred dollars to do a solo video. I kind of attracted it, to be honest. I had been lurking on some sites and I was like, “I guess there is Tranny porn —” Not to sound like an asshole, but at the time my eighteen-year-old brain was like, “Well, I know I’m prettier than all these girls. So I know if I do this, it’s gonna be serious. It’s gonna be a career. I know there’s no way I’m just going to do one video.” I blew a lot of these tricks out of the water. Anyway, I said I would not do it. The random email came and the guy offered me five-hundred dollars and I very quickly responded with “no” — and then my rent was due, and the Italian restaurant that I waitressed at filed for bankruptcy, and so I was like, “Okay. I definitely have to pay my rent —” So I just did it. Of course, they loved me and then they wanted me back over and over again.

HOW DID THE SHOOT GO DOWN?

Bailey Jay: I met him at a Starbucks, just to make sure he wasn’t a murderer. He was kinda cool and kinda weird in a good way. Like, he liked Death Metal. He was weird and interesting and he grew up in Germany. He was just a nice guy. So I was like, “Okay.” So what I did was, I agreed to do it. We went to a hotel that was a block away from my apartment at the time. We just did it there and everything, and I got paid five-hundred dollars in cash — which at the time was awesome, awesome, awesome money. I had no money, so that was great. Obviously they called me back. I became one of their number-one girls. So I did it a few times, and they eventually offered me a solo website, and they flew me to L.A. to try to sweet-talk me about what they would offer me for a solo site, blah blah blah, and they put me in a nice place in The Hills and blah blah blah. But it felt like horseshit, to be honest, and the money that they were offering wasn’t great — then a competing company contacted me, and gave me a solo site, and now I’m amazing friends with all of them, and the owner of the company has a legal team that watches my back. She sent me a huge, amazing basket last week for my wedding. It’s more like a family. It runs really nice.

WHAT SORT OF GUYS ARE ATTRACTED TO TRANSSEXUALS?

Bailey Jay: There’s a mix. There’s guys that like cross-dressers, which are a little different. This is when I do web-cam; I’m not an escort, so I don’t know this first-hand — but when I do web-cam stuff, they say something like, “Do you own a pair of high heels?” or “Do you own a pair of panties?” or they’ll ask, do I have pantyhose or red lipstick — things that an actual genetic female my age would never wear, like red lipstick and pantyhose and shit like that. I’ll find out they like cross-dressers — I don’t get why they’re coming to me for that, because I really look like a chick, so it’s not going to fulfill the fantasy. So, there’s those guys — then there’s the guys that want to be dominated by a woman, like a chick with a strap-on. That’s pretty kosher, I suppose. Then there’s these guys, who I refer to as Tranny-chasers — they’re these guys who don’t care what you look like. They don’t care what you sound like. They don’t care how tall you are. They don’t care how the boob job is. They don’t care how big or how little your dick is. If you’re a Tranny, they want to have sex with you. They’re Tranny-chasers — and they’re nuts. It’s almost insulting, because they’ll tell me, “You’re the most beautiful person on the face of the planet,” and write me fan mail — and then they’ll do the same thing for some three-hundred-and-fifty pound guy wearing a tube-top.

IS THERE AN AGE RANGE THESE FELLOWS FALL INTO?

Bailey Jay: My fans are definitely — if you look on the forums, they’re real young guys who, instead of looking at girlie magazines, look at Trannies. They’re like eighteen and whatever. Then you get seventy-five- and eighty-year olds. I don’t share the same fan base with a lot of the other girls —mine are usually Straight guys who found out about me through one of their buddies, and they write me emails all the time. They say, “I’m so not into that; I’ve looked at Tranny porn before, and it’s kind of gross — but then I found you and I think you’re so beautiful.” It’s usually, in my experience, the military guys — Army guys. Army guys love me. That can’t get enough of me.

SO YOU’RE DOING YOUR PART TO DEFEND OUR NATION.

Bailey Jay: I am — and they get on the web-cam sometimes, and they’ll be overseas, which is kind of crazy. I’ve dated Army guys. I think some of them have romanticized being in the armed forces. They may like Trannies, but they’ll lean more towards a Tranny who has more of a pin-up look. But they’re cool. I’m treated with a lot of respect in this industry — which is surprising.

WHY IS IT THAT A LOT OF THE GIRLS DON’T GET RESPECT?

Bailey Jay: I don’t think they do. Granted, sometimes you’ll get a foreign fan who may not have a lot of respect for women, much less a Transsexual. They’ll come into a web-cam room and be like, “Jerk off your Tranny dick, you she-whore,” or something ridiculous. I think a lot of the other girls are willing to put up with that because they’re not used to being treated with respect. They’re used to being the butt of a joke all the time, being a Transsexual. But I’m treated as a woman. I’m not treated like a social pariah. So I immediately am like, “Dude, I’m not gonna let you call me a whore so that I can make four dollars on a web-cam site.” The other girls — they make my life harder sometimes, because a lot of them are hookers and escorts. I have guys who ask me how much my rates are, to come to my house and fuck me — I’m just like, “Are you kidding me?” I can’t get mad at them — it’s the other girls that put that image out there — and you can’t get mad at the girls, because it’s society that makes them have to get on their backs to make money, because they’re portrayed as social pariahs.

HAVE THERE BEEN TIMES WHERE YOU’VE FELT BAD VIBES BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU DO?

Bailey Jay: It’s hard to say, because I really have genuinely been treated with respect — because I carry myself in a way that demands respect from a person. I don’t provoke people to want to yell at me. Other Transsexuals, I think, will take out their frustration on how passable I am — Transsexuals that don’t do porn, obviously. They try to make it a point that they’re mad at me because I do porn, when I think it’s very clear they’re misplacing anger with other stuff. A genetic female can do porn, so can a Transsexual, so can a Black girl, so can a Chinese girl — you know what I mean? I used to get hate mail from Trannies: “You’re holding back the Transgender community and this, this and this.” I’m always polite and I always respond — well, I used to respond when I had the patience: “This percentage of the money that I made went towards this charity, and I do a lot for Transsexuals, and I wrote my congressperson about Gay marriage — I do a lot.” A lot of times these people, like I said, are misplacing anger. Which I totally understand. I used to think I hated so-and-so model that maybe had a better career than I did two years ago. I’d say, “I don’t hate her because her career’s better than mine; I hate her because she has bad plastic surgery —” and then I realized, Why the hell would I be mad at her because she has bad plastic surgery? I realized, after all that, that I was mad because so-and-so had the career that I wanted.

WAS THERE ANYBODY YOU THOUGHT WAS REALLY COOL WHO YOU WANTED TO BE LIKE — WHO YOU SET YOUR SIGHTS ON EMULATING?

Bailey Jay: Well, I don’t know if I’d go as far as emulating her, but I’ve always been very impressed with Amanda Lepore and people like that. I don’t know. I like the oddballs.

SHE’S ON THE COVER OF THIS BOOK, INCIDENTALLY.

Bailey Jay: Oh my gosh — that’s awesome! She’s amazing. She’s fucking rad. I’ve never had a weird love-hate thing — like, “Oh, I wish I was her,” or whatever; I genuinely am just impressed by her. She’s a weirdo. I think she’s so cool. She’s a different generation. From what I’ve gathered, her and I are nothing alike, whatsoever — but there’s this thing in me that’s like, “I want to be cool like her.” She’s cool.

IMAGINE IF YOU HAD LIVED A GENERATION EARLIER AND DID WHAT YOU DO NOW — HOW DIFFERENTLY YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN TREATED. DO YOU SEE AN EVOLUTION —

Bailey Jay: I definitely want to take it there. I really do, as an optimist — but to be perfectly honest, this is going to be the most bleak answer I could probably give, and I apologize in advance —

OKAY —

Bailey Jay: I’ve known many girls from my generation who’ve done the same thing as me, if not transitioned later or transitioned in a more accepting environment, and their stories are not as nice as mine — and it’s correlated to the fact that I transitioned with this voice, being five-foot-five, naturally hairless — and when I transitioned, I turned into a piece of ass. I didn’t transition into someone who kinda looked like a chick. I make my living by my looks. I feel like it’s a safe bet to say I’m attractive. Let me try to put this somehow without sounding like a cunt: I’m only treated as well as I am about my transition because I’m the poster child. It’s because I’m the nice tiny little package of, “This is Transgenderism at it’s best!” It’s an easier thing to swallow. I don’t have big huge hard tits. I don’t have silicone golf balls in my cheeks. I don’t have mounds and mounds and mounds of platinum blonde hair, and I don’t sound like Bea Arthur — you know what I mean? So, everyone treated me with respect — and I am so sad to say that. I would like to say that my life is easy because people are good, but the reality is that people only care about you if you’re hot. They have empathy for me because I’m sexually attractive — and that’s the only reason they have any empathy for me, whatsoever.

AND YOU’RE GOING TO HARNESS THAT EMPATHY TO DO GOOD THINGS —

Bailey Jay: Definitely. People want to listen to me because I’m hot — but for fuck’s sake they’re listening to me, so that counts. Being hot almost works against me sometimes, because people listen to me but they assume that I have nothing interesting to say — but starting my radio show and my podcast is what really made me realize that people think that I’m interesting. I fired my publicist in L.A. because he kept telling me, “Oh, we’ll get you a hosting job on G4 and we won’t tell them you’re Transgendered” and this, this and this. You know — stupid stuff like that. He was a moron and he didn’t get that I want to get political really fast and I want to be taken seriously, and I want to Traci Lords myself out of porn as fast as possible. He just didn’t seem to understand that. I told him I don’t want to be famous. He had no idea what I was talking about. It was like I was speaking another language when I told him I want to get political and I want him to get me the political events. I want him to get me a fundraiser instead of getting me some shitty made-for-TV movie about some Transgendered girl that gets made fun of in high school. I don’t want to act. I want to actually do stuff.

I SEE.

Bailey Jay: I kinda want to act. I don’t want to just be famous — that’s a double-edged sword —

AREN’T YOU ALREADY FAMOUS?

Bailey Jay: That’s what people tell me — but I don’t even think about it, because it gives me a panic attack.

REGARDING THIS POLITICAL ACTIVISM THAT YOU SEE YOURSELF UNDERTAKING — TELL US, WHAT IS IT IN THE WORLD THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE? WHAT’S THE SITUATION, AND HOW WOULD IT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED?

Bailey Jay: Well, whether I was genetic female or Transgendered female — I feel very strongly about Gay rights, and obviously I live my life as enough of a woman that I could stay far away from the Gay rights movement. But I care about it deeply, and I think that there’s going to be a lot of politicians in twenty years that are going to be pretending that they never said some of the stuff they’ve said. Same deal with the people with their tail between their legs now, who were trying to fight integration in schools. Now their tails are between their legs because they’re like, “Fuck, it was the times; it was different.” I want people to have to apologize for trying to fight Gay marriage. I know they’re going to have to hang their heads in shame in a few years, and I’ll soak it up like a sponge. I’m going to love it. I want it to be now. I want people to look at Homophobia as being ridiculous and disgusting — same way that they do racism. You know, Gay people have rights. I think Gay people are just the coolest. I fuckin’ love them.

BOTH THE MALES AND THE FEMALES?

Bailey Jay: Oh yeah. All of them. They’re fuckin’ spectacular.

DO YOU GET COMMUNICATIONS FROM KIDS WHO FEEL THEY’RE IN A BAD WAY OR IN A CONFUSED SITUATION?

Bailey Jay: Sometimes I do — but I make an effort to avoid it, because my job is inappropriate. When it comes down to it, I’m a Porn Star — and as much as I want to help a sixteen-year-old kid or a fourteen-year-old kid, as far as I’m concerned they shouldn’t even know who I am. I would love to help, but I feel that it’s inappropriate because of my job — and that’s just the world we live in. But occasionally I’ll get an eighteen-year-old or even a seventeen-year-old who will ask for advice, and I’ll break my rule and I’ll help out and give them advice. But I don’t have much advice to give. I did porn because I knew I could own porn. I can’t tell anybody else to do that. I can’t assure some kid that they’re going to have the same benefits I did doing porn. They go, “Oh, I’m thinking about doing porn; I’m thinking about doing Tranny porn; I just transitioned —” I can’t be honest because they’ll get mad. I’ll say, “Look, I have to be honest: chances are you’ll either super luck-out and do exactly what I did, or you’ll be an archive girl and you’ll get your five-hundred dollars and that’s it — and those pics are up there for the next twenty years and you can’t get them down and you can’t afford to buy them off the company, so you screwed yourself because you needed five-hundred dollars or because you were trying to find out if you were feminine in a public way. It’s not worth it.” Of course they get angry. They think I’m arrogant — because I look like a female. It really is a lesser headache to let people write me stuff and feel good they got it out — and me not respond.

I SEE. WELL, YOU GOT MARRIED THE OTHER DAY —

Bailey Jay: I did.

HOW WAS YOUR WEDDING?

Bailey Jay: It was phenomenal. It was so great. My mother and grandmother were there, and his whole family was there. It was really great. I thought I looked pretty great. I had a big old dress on. It was really fun.

HOW DID YOU MEET YOUR HUSBAND?

Bailey Jay: He was a photographer, and he said, “I’m taking a trip to Virginia to do a photo shoot. I thought I would round up some girls. I don’t know if you model, but I think you’re very pretty and I would love to shoot you while I’m in town.” He came to Virginia with his girlfriend at the time — actually, his makeup artist — and he was the photographer, and what ended up happening was, he said, “You know, you’re very beautiful and I’d love to shoot you. I’m not sure if you’ve ever modeled before.” At this point, I was already a pretty well-known adult film star, and so I responded with, “Oh, I assumed you Googled me by now, and I’m going to assume that you know that I have a penis, and that I’m male and blah, blah, blah.” He had never seen a Transsexual. He was blown away. He was like, “Oh my god — because you’re so beautiful —” and he was like, “I thought all Trangendered people are like Thai lady boys that would like give me HIV.” I was like, “No, no, no.” So we met and he said I was gorgeous and he was like blown away. I remember meeting him and meeting his girlfriend — and both of them being like, “Oh my god, this is crazy.” I remember him hitting on me and he was like, “This is so weird. I never thought I could be with a Transsexual. I just think you’re so hot —” and then I remember thinking he was a creep because he was supposed to be my photographer — and I was like, “Oh great, another Tranny chaser. This is awesome.” But he ended up being really nice. We ended up being friends and his girlfriend ended up falling in love with me because she was a crazy person and we were all friends and I hooked up with both of them. She ended up being nuts and so I told him, “Dude, I’m not trying to drive a wedge between you and your girlfriend, but your girlfriend is fucking nuts.” The three of us were friends and we lived together and eventually she was just a psycho and they broke up. I left. I had left, and then they broke up, and then he called me — and we’ve been together ever since. That was about two-and-a-half years ago.

ALRIGHT. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS.

Bailey Jay: I’m really happy, and she’s long gone — and she was bananas. That girl was nuts.

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR SUCCESS IN THE PORN BIZ. IT’S NOT EASY TO COME OUT ON TOP IN THAT RACKET, IS IT?

Bailey Jay: Oh no. Definitely not. It’s hard to make any money — I don’t know how these girls with pussies do it. The only reason I make money is because I have a dick.

WELL, I DON’T KNOW QUITE HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT, BUT IT’S AN INTERESTING STATEMENT, I MUST SAY.

Bailey Jay: Yeah, I definitely feel that way. You could just Google the word “vagina” and you’ll get five-thousand pictures of vaginas. You know what I mean? It’s very easy to find a naked girl on the Internet.

YES.

Bailey Jay: But to find a naked Transsexual that maybe looks very genetic — there’s definitely more than just me, obviously, but I feel like they’re farther and fewer between.

LET’S HOPE THERE’S MORE LIKE YOU.

Bailey Jay: Oh yeah. I think there definitely will be. There’s all these new girls that are popping up. They’re so pretty —

WELL, I THINK WE’VE COVERED SO MUCH HERE — IS THERE ANY MORE THAT YOU’D LIKE TO TELL US?

Bailey Jay: I don’t know if this is super important, but I’ve been talking to my husband and we’re going to be doing some pretty cool independent films and advertising them on my podcast. I think they’re going to be really, really, really popular. I’m gonna be a platinum blonde in it, and they’re going to be really weird, and I’m super excited about it. So we’re going to be working on those next year.

WE’LL BE LOOKING OUT FOR THOSE. SO, WE’VE REACHED THE CONCLUSION OF OUR DISCUSSION —

Bailey Jay: Okay, I’m sure we covered everything — so we should be good. ~